widey, i did enjoy it but as a male i can't do too many things at once.
in terms of under arm swings though i no longer do these. i have what is called the catapult cast. I drop the lead two thirds of the rod length and hold it firmly. i then pull it to get the rod tip bent right round, aim and then let go of the lead whilst taking care to note the position of the hook. i only needed one cock up before building that bit in. its great fun and i can easily cast/fire 50 yards this way. it is far better for getting under trees and and close to snags as it has a completely different trajectory. its not possible with a live bait though.
and thanks again Kim, you must feel like my dad sometimes sorting out my arguments and doing my home work questions.
one small step for man and one giant step for mankind, flange the ultimate in stinkiness.