bait boats

[chrisandjack]

Why are bait boats in this club ????????????????

[tolly]

cos its not fishing

[chrisandjack]

dont be so silly its progress

[Wayne Clarke]

Think about number of members, size of our waters and it becomes obvious!!

[chrisandjack]

they could be lisenced (more money for the club) also its unlikely that everyone would be using them at the same time also not everyone would use one AND they could be restricted to what water they can be used on

[Wayne Clarke]

Even more rules for baliffs to try and and it's already a thankless task.
Why on earth would you need a baitboat on any of our waters anyway?

[car park billy]

NO NO NO to bait boats......this would just take the art out of our fishing just think back to wen you was younger and you would see the older lads castin alot further out into the lakes to were the fish were and catching, very frustrating to us younger lads at the time as we could not cast that far but as we grew and developed our casting skills were able to reach those spots and catch , what a feelin as i felt i was really one of the lads..now with the development of bait boats anyone young or old could do it to me there is no art in drivin a boat out to a spot, is this really the way forward in our sport......i hope not....

[Dan Jarman]

Noddies.....learn to cast. Dam fools.

There are a hundred reasons why bait boats are not a good idea. All of which i am sure you can think of if you apply your brains. NO NO NO NO NO.

[The Laird]

No Boats

[Wayne Clarke]

Jesus!!

For once we all agree on something! Well, nearly all!

[GaryB]

Totally agree....If you want to use a boat for fishing, take up Sea Angling imo

[The Laird]

Jesus!!

For once we all agree on something! Well, nearly all!

Can't agree on the Jesus bit

[chrisandjack]

mmmmmmmmm well i only asked
Althouw i must say it would be handy for ppl like me who have got arthritus in both shoulders which duz make casting a bit of a painfull challange
MAYBE a few of you should try casting when you cant lift your arms up

[rangemaster]

to hear that mate but think realistically,bait boats on snake pit people edgin closer to the snags antil they are in them,or bovvy fishing 2ft in the reeds and tethered fish dying.prestons under the rope on peg 1 onto tree stumps ect the list goes on mate its just a bad idea with a club that has anglers ranging from beginners to very experianced

[chrisandjack]

they are all very gd pionts that you make that lead nicely on2 my nxt subject as snake is known to be very snaggy do you not think that a board showing snag area's and some markers in the snag's would not be gd from as you say A fish safety point
I would love to fish snake but i dont as i have know wish to be casting straight into the snags

[Fcuked Off]

they are all very gd pionts that you make that lead nicely on2 my nxt subject as snake is known to be very snaggy do you not think that a board showing snag area's and some markers in the snag's would not be gd from as you say A fish safety point
I would love to fish snake but i dont as i have know wish to be casting straight into the snags

There was one, and ropes showing the areas. But as per normal these ended up in the drink.

Bait boats, one big no no.

[dave whittaker]

i can just see it now the middle of layer would be like the battle of midway

[GaryB]

i can just see it now the middle of layer would be like the battle of midway

......why hike all the way round to the cottages.....jump in the swim by the car park and just boat your baits accross.....perfect

[Dan Jarman]

Its the bait boats that have sonar and fish finders on that bother me the most. People's lazyness is an insult to anglers that have bothered to learn watercraft.

[dave]

i used to have a boat and i see them as another tool to improve ya chances just like larger spool reels and spods and markers but i think mr whittaker is on the right track . most waters have people that basicly take the when casting and if we let em have a boat it would get worse

no to boats ( would have said yes but mine lmfao (not really (or do i ))

[car park billy]

dave if using bait boats improved ya chances why did you still blank .. mate couldnt help meself.... .... i just think that using them is cheating to a degree what next scuba divers getting fish and attaching them to ya hooks

[chrisandjack]

well how about we go back to the gd old days
No boilies no fixed spool reels bolt rigs and all the parafinalyer thats used for carp fishing no poles keep nets and landing nets with knots in um the list could go on and on. ITS called progress.
IF you dont like bait boats then its simple dont get one
i would find a bait boat a dam site less of a off than in spoding is
And yes i do spod not very gd at it

[car park billy]

crisandjack i understand you would benifit from a bait boat coz of arthritse which is a fair point to a degree but for me no in thank you i would gladely become a bait boat pirate armed with a 4oz lead...are you new to the carp fishing world as most of us who have learnt there skills over many years cant stand them

[chrisandjack]

no billy im not new mate just that i think everything has it place and use and god knows i would find one massive handy.
best i can do is one side of olivers to other

[car park billy]

na thats fair enough and i can see ya point but in general i think they are makin fishing too easy

[Fcuked Off]

no billy im not new mate just that i think everything has it place and use and god knows i would find one massive handy.
best i can do is one side of olivers to other

How do you manage to avoid getting caught up on the trees ???, because every time I fish there those bleeding trees on the spit get in my way

[car park billy]

bye learnin how to cast propperly.......

[dave whittaker]

none of our lakes are big enough to use boats on and seems as most of the members cant cast for toffee as it is i can only see one ending if they allow boats

[dave]

if u put a camera on the boat dave u can see any end u want

[car park billy]

if we are gonna have boats then i think we should have scuba divers as well so as they can hook the fish on for us this might inprove some peoples catch rates mr blanko

[Dave B]

Okay, what about a situation where you find a lovely little patch of gravel beneath an overhanging bush. You sit there watching the spot for a while and are stunned to see several of the lake's biggest lumps visit the area. You want to get a bait there but there's no way you can cast anywhere near it. You come up with a plan and dig out a baiting spoon and put it on the end of a pole. You stick your rig in the spoon with a mix of crumbed boilies, pellet and a bit of particle and carefully ease the spoon out through the branches and drop it right on the spot after checking those fish won't be spooked. Half an hour later it's away and you bag your p.b. Good angling, wouldn't you say?

How about if you used a bait boat in the exact same scenario? Is that cheating or bad angling?

And yes, I have got one

[The Laird]

i think we should have scuba divers

Now thats food for thought......

But on a more serious note, with all the presure on the fish there are sometimes areas on a lake where the fish are safe from being arded with rigs. Boats would rob these fish from their only refuge.

[dave whittaker]

dave if you could reach it with a pole and spoon ! why on earth would you use a boat ???????

[Dave B]

In the scenario you wouldn't have the spoon and pole, you'd have the baitboat.

The question is, what's the difference?

[car park billy]

sounds a bit like a fish at all costs to me .... personally i like the idea of a place were we cant reach them as this gives the fish a bit of restpite from angling pressure plus it makes you think how can i catch them and were can i catch them which in turn will inprove your abilities i no this can be very frustrating at times but surley this is part of carp fishing but how good does it feel wen you hit on something that works.....with bait boats alot of that thinking will be taken away so were is the skill in drivin a boat is this really the way forward in carp fishing

[jimshelley]

bait boats not for me .
uncle jim
KIR

[NRGZ]

if we're not going to allow bait boats then wading should also be prohibited if it isnt already.

[El Tel]

JUst a thought - In the summer I found a bait boat a very useful to place a 1lb roach / Ide hybrid livebait at 120 yards - where I had seen large cats showing. To cast the livey / would have stunned it or given it un-necessary stress - shortly after I had a take where the cats were attracted to the livebait movement. Thus in certain situations they can be an effective tool.

[miv]

Sure hell beats using the winch method as well .
On a CCG fish-in a couple of years ago,group of us were chatting about the benefits of using a bait-boat like you were El Tel to get livebaits out at distance and one of the lads told us he always circles the baitboat at full throttle around his livebait a couple off times after dropping it off as this tactic has brought him an instant take on a couple of occasions.
ATB.